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change marriage to monitary

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 12:15 AM, John Bentley (johnbat41654@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
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 Aircraft marriage units?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:29 PM, James (Jim) D Smith (carjcapt@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
View/reply online       Reply to forum at AvionicsCertficated@skywagons.club       Reply directly to James (Jim) D Smith at carjcapt@gmail.comabout 25 AMUs

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:38 PM, John Bentley (johnbat41654@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
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  A great looking panel, the glare shield looks good too, is it a Selkik?
                 What do you think you spent in the up grade?
 On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 7:11 AM, James (Jim) D Smith (carjcapt@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
 View/reply online       Reply to forum at AvionicsCertficated@skywagons.club       Reply directly to James (Jim) D Smith at carjcapt@gmail.comHere is our example of what we did to bring our 54 180 up to modern day avionics standard. 

We used a blank aluminum template that came with airplane upon purchase.  Took it to avionics shop bought GNS430AW along with a King KT74 (ads-b out) used the balance of the existing com/nav/indicator plus added a Aspen 1000 pro.  Then later traded the 430 for a Avidyne 440, installed a dock for the Area 560 with XM and you see the results.

  Works great didn't have to change the yoke system

  I wish I knew where the blank aluminum panel came from to guide you.  The avionics shop made a plexiglass template so we could mock up the position of the instruments.  They did a great job.

  Jim
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 Aircraft marriage units?

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:29 PM, James (Jim) D Smith (carjcapt@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
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about 25 AMUs

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:38 PM, John Bentley (johnbat41654@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
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View/reply online: http://SkywagonsClub.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=2161&club_id=669928&item_id=744870&message_id=2003645
Reply to forum at AvionicsCertficated@skywagons.club (be sure to copy the message subject exactly so your reply is attached to the correct thread)     Reply directly to John Bentley at johnbat41654@gmail.com
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 A great looking panel, the glare shield looks good too, is it a Selkik?
                What do you think you spent in the up grade?
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 7:11 AM, James (Jim) D Smith (carjcapt@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
View/reply online       Reply to forum at AvionicsCertficated@skywagons.club       Reply directly to James (Jim) D Smith at carjcapt@gmail.comHere is our example of what we did to bring our 54 180 up to modern day avionics standard. 

We used a blank aluminum template that came with airplane upon purchase.  Took it to avionics shop bought GNS430AW along with a King KT74 (ads-b out) used the balance of the existing com/nav/indicator plus added a Aspen 1000 pro.  Then later traded the 430 for a Avidyne 440, installed a dock for the Area 560 with XM and you see the results.

 Works great didn't have to change the yoke system

 I wish I knew where the blank aluminum panel came from to guide you.  The avionics shop made a plexiglass template so we could mock up the position of the instruments.  They did a great job.

 Jim
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Our_Panel.jpg (98.2 KB)




 
about 25 AMUs

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:38 PM, John Bentley (johnbat41654@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
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View/reply online: http://SkywagonsClub.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=2161&club_id=669928&item_id=744870&message_id=2003645
Reply to forum at AvionicsCertficated@skywagons.club (be sure to copy the message subject exactly so your reply is attached to the correct thread)     Reply directly to John Bentley at johnbat41654@gmail.com
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 A great looking panel, the glare shield looks good too, is it a Selkik?
                What do you think you spent in the up grade?
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 7:11 AM, James (Jim) D Smith (carjcapt@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
View/reply online       Reply to forum at AvionicsCertficated@skywagons.club       Reply directly to James (Jim) D Smith at carjcapt@gmail.comHere is our example of what we did to bring our 54 180 up to modern day avionics standard. 

We used a blank aluminum template that came with airplane upon purchase.  Took it to avionics shop bought GNS430AW along with a King KT74 (ads-b out) used the balance of the existing com/nav/indicator plus added a Aspen 1000 pro.  Then later traded the 430 for a Avidyne 440, installed a dock for the Area 560 with XM and you see the results.

 Works great didn't have to change the yoke system

 I wish I knew where the blank aluminum panel came from to guide you.  The avionics shop made a plexiglass template so we could mock up the position of the instruments.  They did a great job.

 Jim
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Our_Panel.jpg (98.2 KB)



 
 A great looking panel, the glare shield looks good too, is it a Selkik?

                What do you think you spent in the up grade?

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 7:11 AM, James (Jim) D Smith (carjcapt@gmail.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
View/reply online       Reply to forum at AvionicsCertficated@skywagons.club       Reply directly to James (Jim) D Smith at carjcapt@gmail.com
Here is our example of what we did to bring our 54 180 up to modern day avionics standard. 

We used a blank aluminum template that came with airplane upon purchase.  Took it to avionics shop bought GNS430AW along with a King KT74 (ads-b out) used the balance of the existing com/nav/indicator plus added a Aspen 1000 pro.  Then later traded the 430 for a Avidyne 440, installed a dock for the Area 560 with XM and you see the results.

Works great didn't have to change the yoke system

I wish I knew where the blank aluminum panel came from to guide you.  The avionics shop made a plexiglass template so we could mock up the position of the instruments.  They did a great job.

Jim

Attachment(s):
Our_Panel.jpg (98.2 KB)

 
Here is our example of what we did to bring our 54 180 up to modern day avionics standard. 

We used a blank aluminum template that came with airplane upon purchase.  Took it to avionics shop bought GNS430AW along with a King KT74 (ads-b out) used the balance of the existing com/nav/indicator plus added a Aspen 1000 pro.  Then later traded the 430 for a Avidyne 440, installed a dock for the Area 560 with XM and you see the results.

Works great didn't have to change the yoke system

I wish I knew where the blank aluminum panel came from to guide you.  The avionics shop made a plexiglass template so we could mock up the position of the instruments.  They did a great job.

Jim
 

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  Thanks,
  Personally, I just wanted the panel to be simple, I fly with my eyes outside and my ear the rest of the panel supports what I see and hear. 
             Keep in touch and if there is anything I can do let me know.

                 John
                         www.bentleyair.com

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Clay Boyce (flyawayclay@aol.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
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Thanks for the response John. It’s definitely going to be a lot of work so not an easy decision to jump into. Yours is really nice. Functional without being over the top. 

 
Thanks for the response John. It’s definitely going to be a lot of work so not an easy decision to jump into. Yours is really nice. Functional without being over the top. 
 
   Clay,
   If you look at my website I have pictures of my panel. Of course, I had everything behind the panel stripped out and started a new, wiring, switches, CB's and the panel. For me it made more sense. Starting with all new added to the value of the aircraft and I changed things around the way I wanted, throttle, prop, mixture, switches, CB's and radios. I put the radios in the old spot which is not the best but it works, if I were to do it again I think I would change the instrument panel so the look was still that 50's look but split up the panel so I could stack the radios to the right of the instruments. The problem is space. I took out the lower panel and to do this you need to remove the angle bracket that holds the lower panel in place. When I had the panel removed I found a company, Nimbus Aviation that fabricate panels. I sent them my old panel, they measured it out, put the holes where I wanted, cut it all out in plexie glass and sent it back to me to fit. This was a good thing because I had to move things around. I made a new glove box which is hinged from the inside, I hate that piano hinge at the bottom.

   Next is the cost....

   The panel cost me 2000.00, just the panel, I could have done it myself but I did not want to spend the time, my Garmin audio panel, com, and transponder set me back 10,000.00 and my G5 is another 2000.00, digital tach 1600.00, electric DG 1800.00, EGT/CHT 2200.00, Fuel flow 800.00, then I wired it all, USB plugs in the panel and run Foreflight, a second 2 1/4 Becker radio in the instrument panel is my #2 radio. Bentleyair does a complete rewire kit where I build the panels all up on the bench, this includes all new wiring, both top and bottom panels, switches, CB's and then when I am done with the package you bring in the airplane I strip out the old and a week later you are flying. Sometimes this can be a good time for a windshield as well. In my case the old wires were such a mess it just made no sense to keep any of it, 65 year old wire still works but for how long? For me I hate going halfway, in my opinion, it is a good investment but just so long as you have gas in you'r tank and oil in you'r engine the plane will still fly no matter what you have in the panel.. It is you'r wife you have to explain it to....
     


                           Thanks

                                   John
               www.bentleyair.com



On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Clay Boyce (flyawayclay@aol.com) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:
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I’m wondering if you started your upgrade? Where you able to locate a blank or template?

I also have a 1954 which is in need of some TLC so I’m trying to figure out a plan of attack. I want to keep it relatively simple while hanging onto a lot of the old. ADS is going to play into it of course. I’d like to install a gns430, audio panel and transponder in the center, try to come up with a “6” pack, maybe upgrade engine intrsuments and generally clean up the hornets nest behind the panel. 

My panel and a panel I’ve come across along the way for a general goal. Thanks to who ever owns the panel I’ve attached as it was just a pic I’ve saved from the net. 

Ambitious, maybe, but needed. I’d appreciate any thoughts or help from those that have gone before and would care to pass on. 

Thanks, 

Clay
N3888C
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I’m wondering if you started your upgrade? Where you able to locate a blank or template?

I also have a 1954 which is in need of some TLC so I’m trying to figure out a plan of attack. I want to keep it relatively simple while hanging onto a lot of the old. ADS is going to play into it of course. I’d like to install a gns430, audio panel and transponder in the center, try to come up with a “6” pack, maybe upgrade engine intrsuments and generally clean up the hornets nest behind the panel. 

My panel and a panel I’ve come across along the way for a general goal. Thanks to who ever owns the panel I’ve attached as it was just a pic I’ve saved from the net. 

Ambitious, maybe, but needed. I’d appreciate any thoughts or help from those that have gone before and would care to pass on. 

Thanks, 

Clay
N3888C
 
Does anyone know of someone who makes blank metal overlays. We have need for a cleanup as well as relocation of some items on the panel on our recently acquired ‘54 180. Also, would like to know if a replacement control wheel is doable on the existing shafts. Not interested in the back panel yoke relocation.

Thanks in advance.

Cody Welch
N2471C
 
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