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Avionics - Certificated

Dream Panel?
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I have gone through a total restoration of my C180J over the past year. This included a total new panel. I attach a picture of it so you can see the layout (the Aspen is not yet mounted).

 
GTN750 interfaced with the Aspen
GNC255B as 2nd navcom
Aspen 1000 VFR with GPSS 
VOR/LOC/GS indicator, interfaced with GNC 255B
Stec 50 AP
King KT 74 transponder, ADSB compliant
EI MVP50P, replaces all engine instruments
KR 86 ADF (I just kept the old one). 
PMA 8000 audio pannel (more economical than the Garmin and I am used to a panel separate from the MFD)
Vacuum backup AI
King DME: I bought this unit complete for 1200.00. Not needed but I like having one.
 
The whole plane restoration took a big toll on my wallet and therefore I took some shortcuts on my panel to save money
Aspen VFR: I saved 5'000.00 but I kept my option open to upgrade to the full 1000 PRO at a later date (cost: 5500.00)
Vacuum AI: This is the old unit which therefore did not cost me anything. It is required for IFR ops. I could have installed an electric AI but these units are really expensive (4'000.00). I plan to upgrade in the future. 
 

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My GTN 750 install photo is in the certified avionics forum.  I absolutely love it and wouldn't go back. 

Dale Carlson
907-433-9718

On Jan 14, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Michael Pearson (capnmike1@earthlink.net) <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com> wrote:

Here's a good article from AvWeb a couple of years ago that may help.

 

 Dumping Vacuum for Glass

There might be a couple of issues that you might not have considered. The Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF) on the digital instruments is phenomenal, but if it is just the occasional IFR pop up you're worried about, it could be hard to justify the expense. For a hard IFR traveling machine, and a willing-and-able budget, going all-glass is a no-brainer in my book. I've been flying glass cockpits at work for 22 years, and there is simply no comparison.


-CapnMike
'77 A185F on wheels and Found Bush Hawk XP on amphibs in the family hangar
"If my wings should fail me, Lord, please meet me with another pair" - Led Zeppelin
 

Here's a good article from AvWeb a couple of years ago that may help.

 

 Dumping Vacuum for Glass

There might be a couple of issues that you might not have considered. The Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF) on the digital instruments is phenomenal, but if it is just the occasional IFR pop up you're worried about, it could be hard to justify the expense. For a hard IFR traveling machine, and a willing-and-able budget, going all-glass is a no-brainer in my book. I've been flying glass cockpits at work for 22 years, and there is simply no comparison.


-CapnMike
'77 A185F on wheels and Found Bush Hawk XP on amphibs in the family hangar
"If my wings should fail me, Lord, please meet me with another pair" - Led Zeppelin
 

Thinking about a panel upgrade for my 79 185.  Mind you this probably won't resonate well with the traditional crowd as my goals might be a bit different.  First, let me list the current setup:

  • Garmin GMA-340 Audio Panel
  • Garmin GTX-327 Transponder
  • Garmin Aera 510 w/GDL-39
  • 2 x KX-155a
  • 1 Glideslope
  • 1 Standard CDI
  • STEC-50 AP

The overall goal is to add an IFR certified GPS with GPSS so I can file /Golf.  

 

My secondary goals are as follows:

  • Decrease weight if able
  • Decrease complexity on the backside of the panel
  • Maintain a reasonable budget
The dream part of this is I'd love to get rid of my vacuum system (please don't ask me why, I just want to do it) .  I know it can be done I just don't know if it can be done for a reasonable price keeping the other goals in mind.  I also don't know exactly what works with what in terms of being legal with respect to going vacuum-less.
 
I'm currently thinking of something along the lines of Garmin and Aspen, such as the GTN 650/750 with an Aspen unit or maybe G500 though that might be a budget buster with the panel work required, etc.
 
Also debating the merits of running a single Nav/Com vs. dual.  The IFR part of the mission is mainly for pop up clearances to get through layers in coastal areas and any summertime east coast clag.  This is not hard IFR stuff.  Not interested in minimum approaches, etc.
 
One avionics shop is pushing the Avidyne IFD540 really hard coupled to the Aspen units.  Something about having WiFi and Bluetooth onboard  I like the Garmin stuff overall and do use Android devices with Garmin Pilot currently.  My aircraft is a No Steve Jobs zone.
 
 
Any thoughts or comments are welcome.  Thanks.
 
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