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New shock panels
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Ordered them from an avionics shop.  

Since then I have replaced the panel entirely and now the avionics shops hard mounts panel.  No rubber shock mounts installed anymore.
 
where did u get the over sized lord mounts?
 
You may want to consider a digital tach and RPM. Besides being very accurate, they allow freedom to move them whereever you want. I wanted my engine instruments on the far left and the tach cable would not reach. I find the new guages easy to read.
 
I replaced my panel a few years ago scrapping all the post lights and the plastic overlays.  I had new panels machined and used an over sized Lord Mount in place of all the wimpy ones.  No more sagging panels. 






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  I'm curious if anyone thinks the rubber shock-mounts actually do much? My last airplane (C150150TD) had a droopy panel, as all the old shock mounts were sagging. I replaced them with longer machine screws & solid aluminum bushings so that the panel no longer had any rubber isolation, the instruments never noticed. Thinking of doing the same to my "new" 53 180, as the LH panel 9with all the flight instruments)  is sagging and starting to interfere with operating the stock push/pull switches for nav lights etc located just below the shock-mounted panel.
 
  I'm curious if anyone thinks the rubber shock-mounts actually do much? My last airplane (C150150TD) had a droopy panel, as all the old shock mounts were sagging. I replaced them with longer machine screws & solid aluminum bushings so that the panel no longer had any rubber isolation, the instruments never noticed. Thinking of doing the same to my "new" 53 180, as the LH panel 9with all the flight instruments)  is sagging and starting to interfere with operating the stock push/pull switches for nav lights etc located just below the shock-mounted panel.
 
Jeff
I pulled off all the plastic on my panel and had it painted. I replaced just the shock mounted part and used a piece of plexiglass as a template to see where the instruments could fit. Local shop did a CAD drawing and cut the piece and put holes for the instruments. I was not able to get a 6 pack to fit as that requires a lot more work and I wanted to keep it simple.
 
 
 
 
 
Jeff,
Ditto on Richards comments on Pippin and York. I got a GTN 650, Aspen and S-Tec put into a totally new panel from these guys that I designed. I'm some kinda happy. If you're from this neighborhood, seriously consider this shop.

Rusty Knox

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> I don't know where you are located but there is an avionics shop in Fredericksburg, TX at T82 that does a LOT of instrument panel building, Pippin-York Flying Machine Co., P-Y. They have a CNC router table that not only will fabricate your entire panel with all holes and cutouts but will engrave labels on it as well. P-Y first routes a panel in 1/8" plexiglas so fit and clearances can be checked before cutting metal. They have their own powder coating capability as well and will make the panel any way you want it, as long as it is flat. I had them fab my new panel in the C-195 when the Aspen went in. It fit perfectly the first time and looks great. Instead of screen printing labels, I had them engrave the labels thru the powder coat into the aluminum so they will never wear off. If the labels ever change, it is a small thing to re-cut and powder coat the panels since the digital files are stored.
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> If you are planning avionics upgrade at the same time, P-Y does a lot of that as well, especially S-Tec and Garmin. There are quite a few club members with P-Y avionics installations and new panels that can attest to the quality of their work.
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> As a side benefit, if you make prior arrangements, while P-Y fabs and installs your new panel, you can make a small vacation trip. Fredericksburg is a very popular destination for sightseeing, shopping, wine tasting, and with the National Museum of the Pacific War, you and your family could easily spend 4-5 days making the rounds and be able to check on your panel progress every day.
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Jeff-

I don't know where you are located but there is an avionics shop in Fredericksburg, TX at T82 that does a LOT of instrument panel building, Pippin-York Flying Machine Co., P-Y. They have a CNC router table that not only will fabricate your entire panel with all holes and cutouts but will engrave labels on it as well. P-Y first routes a panel in 1/8" plexiglas so fit and clearances can be checked before cutting metal. They have their own powder coating capability as well and will make the panel any way you want it, as long as it is flat. I had them fab my new panel in the C-195 when the Aspen went in. It fit perfectly the first time and looks great. Instead of screen printing labels, I had them engrave the labels thru the powder coat into the aluminum so they will never wear off. If the labels ever change, it is a small thing to re-cut and powder coat the panels since the digital files are stored.
 
If you are planning avionics upgrade at the same time, P-Y does a lot of that as well, especially S-Tec and Garmin. There are quite a few club members with P-Y avionics installations and new panels that can attest to the quality of their work.
 
As a side benefit, if you make prior arrangements, while P-Y fabs and installs your new panel, you can make a small vacation trip. Fredericksburg is a very popular destination for sightseeing, shopping, wine tasting, and with the National Museum of the Pacific War, you and your family could easily spend 4-5 days making the rounds and be able to check on your panel progress every day.
 
Good luck and let me know if I can help,
Richard
 

Yes, some main panel structural material was removed, and that is why the DER required further bracing. Have you contacted Dave Hayden yet? The LRI choice was because the electronic AOA's were not available back then. I would need to have used the other models for meaningful comparison. I like the location as easily referenced during short final, but not "in your face" like with glare shield mounting.

 

Rob,

 

It looks in the photo of your panel as if some structural material behind the shock panel was removed to accommodate the artificial horizon but it doesn't look as if it was necessary given where it is mounted. Would that be your assessment? Also, how do you like that LRI system, that location for the LRI gauge, and is there any difference between the LRI and an AOA indicator? Seems like they're the same thing to me.


Jeff Skiles
N2215T
 

It is a shock mounted panel  w/ the quarter inch gap. I recall that some work needed to be done at the top to satisfy the DER as some structural material was removed when the new panel was originally done (prior to my buying the aircraft), but Dave Hayden would be the person to contact. I hope his memory is better than mine. OTW I can grab an inspection mirror and peek about. I need to peek anyways as my HSI needle went flaky during my most recent flight, and was "fixed" with a Fonzie knuckle rap. I am hoping it is the connector. 

 

Thanks Rob, that's perfect, yours is within a 150 serial numbers of mine. What's the minor mod at the top of the panel you talked about and does the new wood tone panel just replace the shock panel? Does it still have that 1/4 inch gap between the shock panel and the panel mounts, ie. can you see behind the panel through the gap if you at obliquely from the passenger seat?


Jeff Skiles
N2215T
 

Attached is six-pack layout in my '67 A185E. Although the panel was built years previous, Dave Hayden (ex-180-185 Club president, owner of www.KingsAvionics.net) made a minor mod at top and acquired the 337 thru his DER. The finish is powder-coated, and it was completed the year Garmin announced the 696 - whenever that was.

 

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Hi Stewart,

You're a man I need to talk to.
1) It looks like you used different and relocated shock mounts. Can you tell me about that?
2) What thickness aluminum did you use for the panel.
3) Did you cut the panel yourself?
4) Is there a reason that you swapped the Artificial Horizon and Directional Gyro with the altimeter and vertical speed in the standard 6 pack?
5) it looks like you cut out some of the sub-panel/frame at the top to make more room for instruments over the top of the yoke. Is that true?
I have a 68' 185 that appears to have the same original instrument layout so your panel upgrade could provide a lot of help to me. I'm sure I'll have more questions once I think about it.

Jeff Skiles
N2215T
 

Make your own.

 
 
Try Greer electronics. Robbie@greeaerospace.com


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I am looking for suggestions for a shop that designs, cuts and finishes new
instrument shock panels. I see a California shop Avion mentioned in old
posts, are there any others people might recommend?

Jeff Skiles
N2215T


 

I am looking for suggestions for a shop that designs, cuts, and finishes new instrument shock panels. I see a California shop Avion mentioned in old posts, are there any others people might recommend?

Jeff Skiles
N2215T
 
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