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Airframe Ideas

Will these seats fit?
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Did you want one or two? Utility or full size?

Call or email if you want, my info is in the member directory.

Richard Pulley
 

Try www.baspartsales.com

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: "John Harper (jlh3@airmail.net)" <mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:45
To: "Airframe Ideas" <AirframeIdeas@skywagons.club>
Subject: re: Will these seats fit? <<$189504116075$>>

Thanks for the help. I got the STC from Kenmore today. They now limit the seats to 2 part #'s.
Now the test is going to be finding the seats. I have called and sent out a number of emails, no luck so far.
Do you or anyone reading this link have any suggestions where I might have any luck finding the C206, middle row seats?
Thanks,
John
 
Thanks for the help. I got the STC from Kenmore today. They now limit the seats to 2 part #'s.
Now the test is going to be finding the seats. I have called and sent out a number of emails, no luck so far.
Do you or anyone reading this link have any suggestions where I might have any luck finding the C206, middle row seats?
Thanks,
John
 
John-
Hopefully Kenmore will help you out with their STC.

Option 2 is the best in my opinion, the infinitely adjustable recliners have extra parts that can cost money to keep working and they don't fold forward as far as the 3-position recliners.

Good Luck
 
hilltop 180: I did a little research and found Kenmore Air Harbor, Inc in Kenmore, WA
Thanks again!
 
Thank you so much.
What is the best way to get in touch with Kenmore. I am not familiar with the company. I like the look!!
Thanks for the pics.. Option #2 or #3 look like the best choices.
 
John-
In my opinion, the 206 middle seat STC is the best 180/185 rear seat conversion if you care at all about your rear seat passenger's comfort. I have them and would not trade for any other type of quick-removable seats. They can be removed and installed in a couple of minutes.

First you need to contact Kenmore and ask if they are still selling their 206 middle seat STC for 180/185 installation.

If they are not selling the STC any more, you will have to get a field approval based on the STC or do your own engineering $$$$$.. Kenmore should give you a letter of authorization to use their data which will then be up to the feds if they will give you a field approval based on the STC.

Do not spend any money on seats until you get the approval signed and sealed!

Then you have to find a set of seats. There are 14 different part number 206 middle seats but not all will work. Most common seat styles are;
1) the small utility seats that have a back that folds flat onto the seat bottom and will fit into the extended baggage.
2) the high back seat with 3-position recliner, the best choice in my opinion. Same size seats as the front, just sit lower.
3) the high back seat with an infinitely adjustable recliner. Same size seats as the front, just sit lower.

Contact me if you have trouble finding a set.
 

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I would like to revisit the idea of replacing my 185 bench seat with a standard 185 split seat or the 206 split middle seats.
The pictures posted looked very comfortable w/ the 206 seats for the passengers. Any more ideas or contacts to further research this idea?
Thank you,
John
 
In my 1956 180 we attached both inner seat belts to the nut plate that used to secure the aft leg of the bench seat. For the outer belts I had to install 185 seat belt attach brackets.
 
The 206 middle seats look like a great replacement for the rear bench. Does the Kenmore STC include seat belts? If not, where do the belts attach?
 
A nice set of 206 middle seats upholstered with minimum padding on the seat bottoms makes the most comfortable set-up for the back seat that I know of. The headrests allow the rear seat pax to recline and take a very comfortable nap. More than one passenger has missed a nice flight by sleeping thru it.
 

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None of the front seats will work, they are too tall.

Cessna 210 middle seats could possibly work as they are essentially the same as 206 middle seats except they sit lower and the track spacing is I believe 9" instead of 12-3/4. The track spacing might be a problem when installing the rear tracks but a good metal man could figure it out.

The picture shows a 210 middle seat on the left and a 206 middle seat on the right
 

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Many thanks, guys. You both saved me lotso money and aggravation. I'll keep looking for the MIDDLE row seats.
STC aside, would any other seats (i.e., C-172 front seats) work? There seems to be plenty of those around.
 
Those are 206 REAR seats, you need 206 MIDDLE seats for the Kenmore STC. The track spacing is 12-3/4" for the correct seats.

Those 206 rear seats WILL NOT WORK.

The picture is two of the several styles of 206 middle seats that will work. They work very well.
 

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I just bought a set of 206 seats for my 180. Those don't look the same. The legs on mine are of the same length.
 
I'm looking at a set of 206 seats to replace the rear bench in my 1981 180K. These pictures make the front attach points appear to be of different lengths; so I'm hesitant, as my floor is flat. I asked Kenmore their opinion (wanting to buy their STC), but their parts guy couldn't say whether they would fit or not from seeing the pictures. Any help would really be appreciated.
 

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